Lenny’s Podcast · Podcast episode · Product strategy & vision · Communication & influence

How to sell your ideas and rise within your company

Lenny Rachitskywith Casey WintersJul 21, 202271 min♥ 13
SourceLenny’s Podcast
KindPodcast episode
PublishedJul 21, 2022
Readers♥ 13
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Casey Winters, Chief Product Officer at Eventbrite and a longtime growth advisor who has worked with Pinterest, Airbnb, GrubHub, Tinder and others, discusses his path from marketing analyst to CPO. The conversation covers executive communication and trade-offs, keeping complex products simple, justifying unglamorous product investments, the product manager talent spectrum, and modern growth strategy.

01Key learnings

  • Escalate problems to leadership early so they can help change circumstances, rather than silently absorbing them; leaders can't evaluate fairly what they don't know.
  • Structure upward communication to start at the last point the audience already agrees with, not at the chapter-six detail or with a re-explanation of company strategy.
  • Prepare for important meetings by role-playing each attendee and listing every possible question, ensuring you have the data to answer them before the meeting.
  • Pre-meet key stakeholders individually so they aren't surprised and any concerns surface before the big presentation.
  • Keep products simple with perceived simplicity: advanced features exist but are only discoverable when users go looking, so the default experience stays clean.
  • To fund hard-to-measure work like performance or developer velocity, build custom metrics, run small tests, and first align a few peer leaders behind it.
  • Protect existing gains at scale: product-market fit erodes as user expectations and competition rise, so continual improvement is required to keep it.
  • Treat operations roles as a signal of inefficiency; the goal of ops should be to automate or eliminate the manual work so the role is no longer needed.
“Those people are going to have ideas all the time. Actually, probably most of those ideas are going to be bad, but one out of…”Casey Winters · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:42:06
“The goal of your kindle strategies, these like non scalable hacks they only exist to unlock the fire strategies, to unlock the things that could…”Casey Winters · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:51:24
“Having marketing ops means you suck at marketing.”Casey Winters · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:32:18

02Frameworks mentioned

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