Lenny’s Podcast · Podcast episode · Communication & influence · PM career & craft

Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety

Lenny Rachitskywith Tristan de MontebelloOct 13, 2024143 min▶ 41K
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PublishedOct 13, 2024
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Tristan de Montebello, co-founder and CEO of Ultraspeaking and a former fast-track finalist at the world public speaking championship, joins Lenny Rachitsky to explain why speaking is a meta skill and why most public speaking advice misses the root causes. The episode walks through practical habits, several live practice games, and two speech-building methods (the Accordion Method and the Bow and Arrow technique).

01Key learnings

  • Treat speaking as a meta skill: improving it tends to lift confidence and results across work, relationships and daily life.
  • Use enjoyment as a barometer; if practice or speaking feels unpleasant, you are probably overthinking or doing it wrong.
  • Focus on root causes like pressure and self-trust rather than surface symptoms such as filler words or rushing.
  • Cultivate a habit of looking up while thinking, which reads as thoughtful and confident and reduces interruptions.
  • End strong: anticipate the drop in focus near the finish, and use summary prompts like 'So to wrap up' to land your point.
  • Stay in character and avoid 'leaking' insecurities, since audiences usually cannot see the nervousness you feel.
  • Practice through short, deliberate reps with immediate feedback, such as impromptu games, rather than only reading tips or giving occasional talks.
  • Prepare talks with the Accordion Method (compressing then re-expanding a spoken talk) and the Bow and Arrow technique (one memorable takeaway supported by evidence).
“It's so much more freeing, powerful, connecting, and effective to speak conversation.”Tristan de Montebello · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:00:00
“speaking is not a specialized skill, it's a meta skill. That means that the better you get at speaking, the better your life gets.”Tristan de Montebello · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:05:49
“The day I understood that speaking was a subconscious flow-oriented process and not a conscious process, completely changed the way I approached it.”Tristan de Montebello · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:12:25

02Frameworks mentioned

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