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By Lenny Rachitsky · with Jenny Wen · lennysnewsletter.com · @lennysan on X · YouTube · LinkedIn
Jenny Wen, a designer at Anthropic and former Figma director of design, discusses how AI and agentic coding tools are reshaping the design process, from the shrinking role of polished mockups to design work focused on direction-setting, last-mile implementation, and judgment. The conversation also covers hiring archetypes, management in an IC-heavy world, and frameworks for spotting promising ideas early.
01Key learnings
- Classic linear design process (research, diverge, converge) is breaking down as engineers ship prototypes quickly; designers should expect to let go of it and adapt.
- Design work is splitting into two modes: supporting implementation and setting a vision, where the vision now often spans three to six months and is shown through prototypes rather than decks.
- Designers can use coding tools to do last-mile polish and prototype in real code, rather than waiting on engineers for every implementation detail.
- Explain the reasoning behind design feedback so engineers extract principles they can reuse, and point them to the design system so they can work without you.
- Launch early when the benefits outweigh the flaws, but commit publicly to iterating on feedback; trust is lost when early releases are never improved.
- Keep human judgment focused on deciding what gets built and being accountable for those decisions, since disagreements about scope are the hardest part of building software.
- Returning to IC work for a while can build hard skills and empathy for how the design process has changed, which makes you a better manager later.
- Use the 'legibility' lens: look for illegible ideas that people have energy around, dig into why, and help shape them into something others can understand.
“This design process that designers have been taught, we sort of treat it as gospel. That's basically dead.”Jenny Wen · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:00:00
“A few years ago, 60 to 70% of it was mocking and prototyping, but now I feel the mocking up part of it is 30…”Jenny Wen · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:00:15
“At the end of the day, someone has to decide what is actually going to get built and what actually matters.”Jenny Wen · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:01:03
02Frameworks mentioned
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