Lenny’s Podcast · Podcast episode · Execution, roadmaps & process · PM career & craft

Making time for what matters

Lenny Rachitskywith Jake Knapp + John ZeratskyFeb 11, 2024124 min♥ 80
SourceLenny’s Podcast
KindPodcast episode
PublishedFeb 11, 2024
Readers♥ 80
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By Lenny Rachitsky · with Jake Knapp + John Zeratsky · lennysnewsletter.com · @lennysan on X · YouTube · LinkedIn

Jake Knapp and John Zeratsky are co-authors of Sprint and Make Time and co-founders of the venture firm Character, with prior roles at Google and Google Ventures. The conversation focuses on Make Time, their framework for protecting time for what matters through a highlight, laser, energize, and reflect approach, along with practical tactics for managing distraction, email, and news. They also briefly introduce the design Sprint method from Sprint.

01Key learnings

  • Start each day by choosing a highlight: imagine the day is over and decide what you'd want to call the highlight, then protect a 60-90 minute block for it.
  • Don't rely on willpower; change your environment by logging out of apps, deleting infinity-pool apps from your phone, or adding friction like separate devices or Wi-Fi timers.
  • Use your calendar as a design tool by blocking focus time, meals, exercise, and personal priorities, then adjust the template based on what actually happened.
  • Reset expectations around responsiveness with email signatures or autoresponders that explain you're slowing down to focus on an important project, and add a 'because' to make it more persuasive.
  • Slow your inbox by checking email only once or twice a day, which also slows the cycle of people expecting fast replies.
  • Treat each day as an experiment: reflect on whether the highlight happened, what helped or hindered it, and tweak tactics with curiosity rather than self-judgment.
  • You don't need to adopt all of the tactics; trying one or two small changes, like writing down a highlight on a sticky note, can make a meaningful difference.
  • Sprint's design approach compresses an idea into a five-day cycle from zero to a tested prototype, useful when a startup must prove product-market fit quickly.
“It's not really about productivity, it's not about time management.”Jake Knapp · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:00:00
“The problem is not like what should my goal be or how should I figure out what to do with my life? They usually know,…”John Zeratsky · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:10:16
“Things can sometimes be a mess outside of that, and you still feel really good about your days.”Jake Knapp · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:18:56

02Frameworks mentioned

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