Lenny’s Podcast · Podcast episode · PM career & craft · Startups & founders

Redefining success, money, and belonging

Lenny Rachitskywith Paul MillerdNov 19, 202374 min▶ 34K
SourceLenny’s Podcast
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PublishedNov 19, 2023
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Paul Millerd, author of 'The Pathless Path' and host of a podcast on unconventional careers, discusses escaping the default work-and-life script. The conversation covers sabbaticals, testing new work through small experiments, managing fear and money, and how to build a sustainable life around work you actually enjoy.

01Key learnings

  • Notice whether you're consciously choosing your default path or simply inheriting it, including implicit contracts like working fixed hours you never agreed to.
  • Take a three-hour block during a workday, go for an aimless walk or revisit a childhood activity, and notice what emerges and what guilt surfaces.
  • Ask yourself why you work beyond money, and examine the cultural scripts behind your answer about being a good person.
  • Consider a three-month sabbatical; Millerd argues it's more attainable than people assume and that unwinding typically takes six to eight weeks.
  • Run small experiments on the side before leaving a job, and track which activities energize you versus drain you, then do more of the former.
  • Reframe spending on exploration as an investment in yourself, like a self-funded MBA, and set a runway budget to reduce anxiety about the bet.
  • Explore contract arrangements with your current employer, which can create flexibility and make it easier to reduce hours while staying connected.
  • Name your fears and dialogue with them, using the idea that something that has lasted this long will likely keep lasting, rather than trying to eliminate every fear.
“Take three hours during a workday. Has to be during a workday. Block off your schedule, sneak out.”Paul Millerd · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:00:00
“A lot of people have never really thought about, why do you work? People say money. Okay, that's fine. But what else?”Paul Millerd · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:00:30
“People do not regret the things they do. They regret the things they didn't do.”Paul Millerd · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:34:24

02Frameworks mentioned

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