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By Lenny Rachitsky · with Megan Cook · lennysnewsletter.com · @lennysan on X · YouTube · LinkedIn
Megan Cook, head of product for Jira at Atlassian, discusses building psychological safety and play on product teams, running remote work effectively, getting executive buy-in through staged proposals, and how Atlassian has launched many successful products. The conversation covers peer feedback groups, a gated new-product process, and lessons from her own failures.
01Key learnings
- Pair product managers in small peer feedback groups every couple of weeks so people can share rough drafts and get feedback in a low-stakes setting.
- Treat psychological safety as a precondition for bolder ideas; Megan argues the opposite of play is fear, not work.
- Schedule a recurring block for working through conflict early, so disagreements are addressed before they grow.
- Protect deep-work time in remote settings by syncing leadership calendars and moving status updates out of meetings into asynchronous tools.
- When seeking buy-in, involve affected stakeholders early, state your hypotheses and facts openly, and set a clear ask for each meeting.
- Start new initiatives small, make the benefit visual and concrete with data and prototypes, and build momentum through regular updates.
- Launch new products through stage gates (wonder, explore, make, impact, scale) with small teams and different standards than the core product.
- When committing to an idea, ask how it would look 10x bigger or applied across other products, to avoid missing larger opportunities.
“the opposite of play is fear”Megan Cook · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:06:52
02Frameworks mentioned
Stage Gates (Wonder, Explore, Make, Impact, Scale)The $10 Game for PrioritiesFight Club Conflict Session
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