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By Lenny Rachitsky · with Tim Holley · lennysnewsletter.com · @lennysan on X · YouTube · LinkedIn
Tim Holley, VP of Product at Etsy, shares his decade-plus journey at the marketplace, including a stint leading product at SoulCycle. The conversation covers Etsy's shift toward a GMS-driven culture, how COVID reshaped demand, and the mechanics of running a two-sided marketplace with 100 million unique items.
01Key learnings
- Make one north-star KPI, such as gross merchandise sales, the drumbeat of every meeting and the yardstick for judging launches.
- Repeat the company narrative relentlessly; Tim suggests people need to hear it several more times than you'd expect before they internalize it.
- Benchmark against the broader set of places buyers spend money, not just direct marketplace competitors, to ground prioritization decisions.
- In a marketplace, a seller only stays if they make sales, so prioritize qualified buyers while still dedicating teams to improving the seller experience.
- Use marketplace data to nudge sellers toward actions that help sales, such as better photos or fast responses, and surface those signals in buyer-facing results.
- Small copy changes, like a one-line message in the cart, can produce outsized conversion lifts, so test cheap copy ideas alongside bigger bets.
- Expect most experiments to fail; Etsy runs most changes as A/B tests but is exploring other validation methods for longer-horizon work like retention and SEO.
- Make the PM accountable for choosing what to build and owning the outcome, while still consulting insights, design, engineering and marketing before deciding.
“Our sellers are incredibly astute business people.”Tim Holley · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:00:00
“Keep commerce human.”Tim Holley · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:46:38
“You don't have to have the best ideas, but you have to choose the best ideas.”Tim Holley · Lenny’s Podcast · 00:57:53
02Frameworks mentioned
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