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Lenny’s Podcast121 min

The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source

Matt Mullenweg · Mar 2, 2025
Key learnings
  • Build a movement, not just a product: give community members a philosophy and shared identity, plus many ways to contribute…
  • A platform only becomes durable when its ecosystem of plugins and themes is a moat competitors can't easily replicate.
  • Open source licensing like the GPL guarantees users and builders keep their freedoms even if the steward changes course…