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Lenny’s Podcast81 min

OpenAI researcher on why soft skills are the future of work

Karina Nguyen · Feb 9, 2025
Key learnings
  • Build rigorous evals first: define deterministic pass/fail behaviors (e.g., correct time handling) and human win-rate comparisons…
  • Use prompting as a fast prototyping method to test product ideas before engineering investment, as Karina did with file uploads…
  • Synthetic data scales cheaply for teaching core product behaviors, but human expert data is still needed for specialized…