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Lenny’s Podcast110 min

First interview with Scale AI’s CEO: $14B Meta deal, what’s working in enterprise AI, and what frontier labs are building next

Jason Droege · Oct 9, 2025
Key learnings
  • Model improvement now relies heavily on experts (80% of Scale's expert network holds a bachelor's or higher) defining what good…
  • Enterprise AI pilots that reach 60-70% accuracy feel close, but robust automation of important processes often takes 6-12 months…
  • Validate a new business by checking whether it can sustain high gross margins and whether competitors can match the economics in…